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Steiger Man

Posted 11/5/2022 11:06 (#9917103 - in reply to #9917002)
Subject: RE: Questions about Challenger articulated 4wds

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Steiger Man - 11/5/2022 10:51

BobNESD - 11/5/2022 10:01 I remember when they introduced the AgcoStar 4wd, never did get any in our area. Just curious, do you know how many total of those two models were produced? I've always thought that they seemed way too light built for their HP.

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Guide to Farm Equipment Maintenance We were selling against 9400 Deere's in this area and the dealer wanted to set them all up on 710-38's and then it took a bunch of weight to make them hook...usually around a $40K price difference. We could do the same jobs for $40k less...if that tractor had been Green we would have sold a pile of them.

c_mayer - 11/5/2022 09:17We were selling against 9400 Deere's in this area and the dealer wanted to set them all up on 710-38's and then it took a bunch of weight to make them hook...usually around a $40K price difference. We could do the same jobs for $40k less...if that tractor had been Green we would have sold a pile of them.

I'm sure you would have until farmers figured out they wanted a tractor with powershift capabilities and PTO not a Road Ranger. The Agcostar was a 70s tractor dressed up for the 90s and in my opinion sort of a step back from the tractor they were derived from, the Massey 4000 series. At 40K less, they should have flooded the market out west here but they didn't.

I'm sure you would have until farmers figured out they wanted a tractor with powershift capabilities and PTO not a Road Ranger. The Agcostar was a 70s tractor dressed up for the 90s and in my opinion sort of a step back from the tractor they were derived from, the Massey 4000 series. At 40K less, they should have flooded the market out west here but they didn't.

At that time Powershift was not the norm in the 4wd market. Now, by 2010, sure. The late 90's and early 2000's folks here were buying cheap HP, because most of them were driven by the hired man to go work ground. Now, out where you are, I could see that being reversed and the owner of the farm is driving the big horse running the seeder! But, I also won't disagree that is was an old tractor dressed up, and also why we sold so many here. 90's electronics weren't the best, and people wanted them to RUN!Chris

c_mayer - 11/5/2022 09:55At that time Powershift was not the norm in the 4wd market. Now, by 2010, sure. The late 90's and early 2000's folks here were buying cheap HP, because most of them were driven by the hired man to go work ground.Now, out where you are, I could see that being reversed and the owner of the farm is driving the big horse running the seeder!But, I also won't disagree that is was an old tractor dressed up, and also why we sold so many here. 90's electronics weren't the best, and people wanted them to RUN!Chris

There were a lot of Steiger 91/92/9300 series with powershifts. I can count on one hand how many of those I’ve seen with just the 12 speed synchro. Our JD 8960 had a power shift and we bought it used. Even the more common 24 speed had partial power shift. Only the Versatile guys hung onto the 12 so manual